State of the Union
Union DJs Carl Lormier and Steve Bamford play The Wall this Sat. - By Morgan Short, Apr 11, 08
Union music returns to Shanghai this Saturday with house DJs Carl Lorimer and Steve Bamford making the trek out to Pudong to play an eight hour set at The Wall (although they're stressing the fact that Lujiazhui isnt that far). The Shanghai-based veteran DJs, Carl and Steve sat down with SmartShanghai to shoot the shit, and talk about four years in the business of being a DJ. The interview is a little long, but Carl and Steve drop enough f-bombs to make it an entertaining read. Make sure you make it down for their dueling sets on Saturday.
Carl: I'm Carl Lorimer. Been here four years. I play house.
Steve: Steve Bamford. Four years. House. The whole ... all colors of house.
Carl: Uh...
Steve: A collective of like minded DJs playing ... good house music...
Carl: It was us two, Dugald or DJ Kingpin, DJ Trix ... Trix is still part of Union but yeah he's not here.
Carl: No... he kind of branched off with Slack [DJ Slackerton] so he's doing his own ... Inappropriate night. But now Slack's fucked off to Chengdu. But I think Trix dejays under the "Union" banner sometimes, but his musical taste haves diverted away... Steve's and mine have stayed close. Trix has kind of gone the other way. He might come back but I doubt it...
Carl: What we wanted to do was uhm.... well I was tired of playing around China touring for crap money. Or even for decent money. And then seeing a bunch of other foreign DJs come into Shanghai, be here for a month and then tour around China playing the same clubs and charging the same amount of money or less than what I was charging. So I talked to Dugald and Trix, who were also touring around China at the time, and later Steve, saying "fuck this, we should make a union" to set the standard for the prices we charged.
Carl: Yeah...
Carl: No, we were still touring separately sometimes but if a "Union DJ" went to a new city or club for the first time -- like if Trix went to play in Xiamen or something like that -- club owners at the time were always looking for DJs so he'd refer the other Union DJs, he'd say ¡°here's the bios of Kingpin and Carl Lorimer. These guys are great, you'll love 'em. All these other guys are shit." And if I went to a new club in Guangzhou, same thing...
Carl: Well all four of us -- well I guess it's three of us now -- don't really tour around China anymore. I guess the greater China clubbing scene has kind of woken up and realized that they don't need the whitey DJ -- whitey-faced DJs -- and so very few people are actually able to tour around and actually rock a crowd. And it's something that we don't really like doing anymore. I've come to fucking hate traveling around China...
Steve: Often the case is that the gigs are in the middle of fucking nowhere, like five hours in a car from Guangzhou...
Carl: So, lately we haven't been doing anything. I think the last party we had was like ... at Bonbon in July of last year for some DJ Mag event thing. We've all been doing our own shit.
Steve: Well, its like Shanghai, where its really grown up a lot in the last two years...
Carl: Yeah, like Shanghai was obsessed with the Top 100 DJ thing for a couple of years and we were like a representative of that to clubs outside of Shanghai in Xiamen or Chengdu or Wuhan or whatever. They couldn't afford to bring in Tiesto or Paul Van Dyke so they bring in us. And I think that after a while they got tired of it. Like, when I used to go to these cities to play shows you'd see the posters of their lineups for the month in a bathroom or something and it would be like expat DJ, expat DJ, expat DJ, expat DJ... There's a lot of UK DJs, they don't live in China but they tour through coming and going from Hong Kong, and they'll play for really cheap. And they get the most random fucking people too. And a lot of Shanghai DJs ... like ones I would never think would be able to play outside of Shanghai ...
No it's not that its just ... you can get away with very, very little in these clubs, not like in Shanghai. You have to play electro, you have to play house, you have to play breaks... you have to know how to please people and give them what they want... you have to...
[Laughs] Right. You can't do breakdowns or anything like that, you can't be clever and play all over the map.
Steve: There's a subtly involved...
Carl: Right. And a lot of Shanghai DJs aren't subtle...
Carl: Uh when I first came Shanghai was really good. There were a lot less clubs.
Steve: Like four... or so.
Carl: Yeah there was DKD on Maoming, Park 97, which was sick back in the day...
Steve: Guandii.
Carl: Yeah Guandii, was not a hip hop club, and wasn't overrun with ... retarded ABCs [Laughs]. Yeah and it was um...
Steve: Pegasus.
Carl: Pegasus... Yeah it was good and it was fun the events were... quite excellent I thought.
Steve: You knew if someone was coming to town, like a big DJ or something like that you knew that everybody was going to be there... but now its kind of watered down a bit... you get 50 people here you get 50 people there...
Carl: Yeah, they kind of killed it. There was that whole period of a new club opening every weekend bringing in some huge DJ ... I was very glad that I was out of Shanghai touring on all those weekends while that was going on. Playing outside of Shanghai used to be ... a lot more fun that playing in Shanghai. I used to hate playing in Shanghai. Well actually the DKD on Huaihai, I played several gigs there that were amazing.
Steve: We started initially, at Park 97, so we decided to have a go playing back to back and we played for eight hours one night, spilling beer on the mixer [Laughs]... we decided to do it again and try to stay sober.
Carl: It was at California Club in Park. That was the first time we had played together for a massive chunk of time and we decided to do it again...
Carl: Well back then it was great because it was small, California Club was small, DKD was small. It was decent. I think there's just been way too many clubs and way too many neuveau rich in China who have been like, "fuck it, I need to learn how to go clubbing." And then they roll into these clubs, demand terrible music, get the dice and the tables going...
And then you get the vast majority of the expat crowd ... they're eating that shit up too you know. You'd think they'd been born Chinese [Laughs]. Like... they love the tables and buying bottles...
Steve: And no dance floor... None of these places have proper dance floors, so to play in these places and to get people to dance is fucking hard. Like M2, there's a step and tables and like ... three feet of dance floor. So people come in and it's like they don't know what to do with themselves like... "do I sit down?," "get a bottle of champagne?," "stand by the wall?" It's awkward.
Steve: Well, he's the "Number 1 DJ in the world" supposedly, so I think people just go anyways to have a look...
Carl: Yeah I mean, it's the same... some shitty foreign rock band playing a stadium gets a massive crowd, and you would think they're fucking terrible ... I mean you have to understand the music to know that Tiesto is a massive fraud. And also its like some people go because everyone is going, and they're like "well now I'm going and I need a table and I need a shitload of champagne." Its not about Tiesto...
People say that they fucking love it, his stuff, but then lets say the following week the resident DJ plays the exact same music, they'll be like, "what the fuck is this go back to what you were playing last week."
If Pete Tong came to Attica and played a two hour set, and didn't interact with the crowd or anything, and if Steve played the exact same set, getting into it and interacting with the crowd, people would say they liked the Pete Tong set better...
Steve: Yeah. [Laughs].
Carl: Yeah, well sure. That's what we've been doing for the last four years, pushing our kind of music and trying to get it out there. And I think to a vast degree it's worked. I mean all these expat DJs have basically lifted greater China from absolutely nothing to now... which is, you know, up to electro house, which is two years behind... I'd say there is a core of about 20 expat DJs, not all living in Shanghai, like around China -- some in Beijing, some in Guangzhou -- who are directly responsible for lifting a billion people out of ... musical backwardness.
Steve: But I still think that the way people club, like going out and dancing, is still not quite there yet... I mean ... clubbing should be about people going fucking mental on the dance floor.
Carl: Yep. But I hate the trends back home [Laughs].
Steve: I have a lot of friends, and I think Carl does too, in the music business and they send me new stuff, that people can't get here...
Carl: Yeah. I'm not too into what's going on back home and especially Europe because it's minimal and I fucking can't stand minimal...
Steve: You can't dance to it properly, it's kind of weak...
Carl: It's really soulless, it has no funk...its trendy... which is why there are a few clubs around town that are hammering it. Not too say that minimal DJs are bad like Skinny Babu and Erwan... I've seen those guys a couple of times and they fucking rock it because they pick the extreme few bits of minimal that are actually quite good and chunky and funky and mix them together. And then there are a few others around town that think they play minimal but its shit...
Carl: Maybe I'm wrong in this but I always thought that local DJs sort of lack confidence.
Steve: They're holding back a bit...
Carl: And that's something that's changing... They're doing all their events... DJs are taking control, saying "fuck this, this is my town and my party." And they're getting hyped now so Euro-trash are going to their shows, which is good [Laughs]. Some of the UDance guys, some of them I don't like at all but some of them are really good. John Yang...
Steve: David K.
Carl: David K is wicked.
Steve: Ben Huang
Carl: I don't know. I guess DJ Calvin is the benchmark really...
Steve: He put his neck out there...
Carl: I don't think anyone could replicate what he's done really... He put house music on map. SexyPaul can say he did it but whatever, that's bullshit... he put disco or whatever on the map [Laughs].
Carl: No, what Paul did was great, what all those DJs did is great, amazing, because before them there was nothing, they brought western music in. I mean, we bitch about how hard it is to play in China, but Christ they must have had a hard time. Definitely, they laid the groundwork. There was a huge gap of ... nothingness ... and then they filled it.
Carl: I really like playing at The Shelter.
Steve: I've yet to play ... but we're working on that.
Carl: I would assume MAO is quite good to play, but I've never played there ... I am looking forward to The Wall. It's quite a big club though, but I think it would be a good vibe.
Carl: Well you adapt to what the crowd wants. I've had some really good times in megaclubs, like, there was this one out by Fudan university called "Banana." I don't know if it still exists but it was this massive aircraft hanger thing. I played there for like 600 kids and I don't know, they were pilled up or on speed or something because they were going fucking nuts out there, throwing water bottles...
Steve: They were throwing water bottles probably because they though your music was shit [Laughs].
Carl: There was this massive, massive fight at one of the back tables and cops came in with riot gear to break it up but people at the front didn't even notice. It was an amazing, amazing event.
Carl: Yeah, huge, huge difference.
Steve: Maybe not musically, well it's a little slower and more groovy in places like Attica, but in Chinese clubs you have to bring it. People are there to loose themselves and get absolutely twisted.
Carl: When I first came to China, I really hated the Chinese way of clubbing but I've come to respect it a lot ... I mean people go with their friends, they get a table, it's their little kingdom for the night. They get bottles and just have a fuck-load of fun. And for Bar Rouge and Attica, I mean, it's more laid back, but when CD Club gets going...
Carl: Well this Saturday is just a one-off to see how it goes. Exploratory gig. To see if we can get the people to go to Pudong ... Trying each other on for size.
Steve: But we have a regular Wednesday night at Attica next Wednesday called "Beautiful Burnout."
Carl: The Wednesday ... well we didn't bill The Wall gig as a "Union" gig, The Wall did. And it's slightly unfair to Trix because he's not playing. But Attica, it's more of a new concept. And we'll play it elsewhere too. Maybe The Shelter, and MAO is interested too...
Carl: Yeah...
Steve: I think we're not perceived as "underground" though.
Carl: No we're definitely the commercial guys. We're the guys who play outside of Shanghai, we're the guys who sell-out. We play at Bonbon...
Steve: We dejay for money.
Carl: Well, in my mind a corporate gig is when you're hired by Microsoft or the American Chamber of Commerce to play a show. I have no problem with corporate gigs. They pay a shitload. I just don't play them because they want you to play pop songs in a ballroom ... and it's not really ... in my musical repertoire. So I'm not interested.
As far as the bund versus the underground thing, I'm not to sure a lot of people really give a shit.
Steve: It's all the same people. Half the people who go to The Shelter go to the Bund.
Carl: The only problem I have is when DJs come here and then don't try to branch out and meet other people in the scene. I'm thinking if you're passionate about something and you're considered into the scene because by default you play at a big club that you should make the effort.
Carl: I made a hundred rmb a minute [Laughs].
Carl: Well it was in Wenzhou, which is a city I've since blacklisted. Every horror story that's happened to me has happened in Wenzhou. I fucking hate Wenzhou.
Steve: Shite hole.
Carl: I got booked to play, flew in, realized I was dejaying with DJ ekki from Hong Kong. We played back to back for only 45 mins. We played maybe nine songs and got shitfaced.
Steve: I think at I Love Shanghai [Laughs].
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Catch Carl Lorimer and Steve Bamford -- Union Music -- at The Wall this Saturday. Free entry. Free drinks for ladies before midnight.
Who are you guys? How long have you been in Shanghai? What kinds of music do you play?
Carl: I'm Carl Lorimer. Been here four years. I play house.
Steve: Steve Bamford. Four years. House. The whole ... all colors of house.
Can you describe what "Union" is for people who have never heard of it?
Carl: Uh...
Steve: A collective of like minded DJs playing ... good house music...
Carl: It was us two, Dugald or DJ Kingpin, DJ Trix ... Trix is still part of Union but yeah he's not here.
Is he playing with you guys on Saturday?
Carl: No... he kind of branched off with Slack [DJ Slackerton] so he's doing his own ... Inappropriate night. But now Slack's fucked off to Chengdu. But I think Trix dejays under the "Union" banner sometimes, but his musical taste haves diverted away... Steve's and mine have stayed close. Trix has kind of gone the other way. He might come back but I doubt it...
So what was the original idea behind the whole thing?
Carl: What we wanted to do was uhm.... well I was tired of playing around China touring for crap money. Or even for decent money. And then seeing a bunch of other foreign DJs come into Shanghai, be here for a month and then tour around China playing the same clubs and charging the same amount of money or less than what I was charging. So I talked to Dugald and Trix, who were also touring around China at the time, and later Steve, saying "fuck this, we should make a union" to set the standard for the prices we charged.
So it was like an actual workers union?
Carl: Yeah...
So ... would you guys always play on the same bill or ...
Carl: No, we were still touring separately sometimes but if a "Union DJ" went to a new city or club for the first time -- like if Trix went to play in Xiamen or something like that -- club owners at the time were always looking for DJs so he'd refer the other Union DJs, he'd say ¡°here's the bios of Kingpin and Carl Lorimer. These guys are great, you'll love 'em. All these other guys are shit." And if I went to a new club in Guangzhou, same thing...
So what's different with what you guys are doing now versus back then?
Carl: Well all four of us -- well I guess it's three of us now -- don't really tour around China anymore. I guess the greater China clubbing scene has kind of woken up and realized that they don't need the whitey DJ -- whitey-faced DJs -- and so very few people are actually able to tour around and actually rock a crowd. And it's something that we don't really like doing anymore. I've come to fucking hate traveling around China...
Steve: Often the case is that the gigs are in the middle of fucking nowhere, like five hours in a car from Guangzhou...
Carl: So, lately we haven't been doing anything. I think the last party we had was like ... at Bonbon in July of last year for some DJ Mag event thing. We've all been doing our own shit.
Why do you think the clubbing scene or circuit is changing outside Shanghai? Is it because the crowds are not giving a shit anymore about "white DJs"?
Steve: Well, its like Shanghai, where its really grown up a lot in the last two years...
Carl: Yeah, like Shanghai was obsessed with the Top 100 DJ thing for a couple of years and we were like a representative of that to clubs outside of Shanghai in Xiamen or Chengdu or Wuhan or whatever. They couldn't afford to bring in Tiesto or Paul Van Dyke so they bring in us. And I think that after a while they got tired of it. Like, when I used to go to these cities to play shows you'd see the posters of their lineups for the month in a bathroom or something and it would be like expat DJ, expat DJ, expat DJ, expat DJ... There's a lot of UK DJs, they don't live in China but they tour through coming and going from Hong Kong, and they'll play for really cheap. And they get the most random fucking people too. And a lot of Shanghai DJs ... like ones I would never think would be able to play outside of Shanghai ...
Because they're not professional?
No it's not that its just ... you can get away with very, very little in these clubs, not like in Shanghai. You have to play electro, you have to play house, you have to play breaks... you have to know how to please people and give them what they want... you have to...
You have to "keep it high"? You have to "make it more high"?
[Laughs] Right. You can't do breakdowns or anything like that, you can't be clever and play all over the map.
Steve: There's a subtly involved...
Carl: Right. And a lot of Shanghai DJs aren't subtle...
Can you talk a little bit about the changes in Shanghai over the last four years? Like comparing now to when you first came.
Carl: Uh when I first came Shanghai was really good. There were a lot less clubs.
Steve: Like four... or so.
Carl: Yeah there was DKD on Maoming, Park 97, which was sick back in the day...
Steve: Guandii.
Carl: Yeah Guandii, was not a hip hop club, and wasn't overrun with ... retarded ABCs [Laughs]. Yeah and it was um...
Steve: Pegasus.
Carl: Pegasus... Yeah it was good and it was fun the events were... quite excellent I thought.
Steve: You knew if someone was coming to town, like a big DJ or something like that you knew that everybody was going to be there... but now its kind of watered down a bit... you get 50 people here you get 50 people there...
So there is just too many clubs now?
Carl: Yeah, they kind of killed it. There was that whole period of a new club opening every weekend bringing in some huge DJ ... I was very glad that I was out of Shanghai touring on all those weekends while that was going on. Playing outside of Shanghai used to be ... a lot more fun that playing in Shanghai. I used to hate playing in Shanghai. Well actually the DKD on Huaihai, I played several gigs there that were amazing.
Steve: We started initially, at Park 97, so we decided to have a go playing back to back and we played for eight hours one night, spilling beer on the mixer [Laughs]... we decided to do it again and try to stay sober.
Carl: It was at California Club in Park. That was the first time we had played together for a massive chunk of time and we decided to do it again...
What about the crowds then versus now?
Carl: Well back then it was great because it was small, California Club was small, DKD was small. It was decent. I think there's just been way too many clubs and way too many neuveau rich in China who have been like, "fuck it, I need to learn how to go clubbing." And then they roll into these clubs, demand terrible music, get the dice and the tables going...
And then you get the vast majority of the expat crowd ... they're eating that shit up too you know. You'd think they'd been born Chinese [Laughs]. Like... they love the tables and buying bottles...
Steve: And no dance floor... None of these places have proper dance floors, so to play in these places and to get people to dance is fucking hard. Like M2, there's a step and tables and like ... three feet of dance floor. So people come in and it's like they don't know what to do with themselves like... "do I sit down?," "get a bottle of champagne?," "stand by the wall?" It's awkward.
So, people talk about this "backlash" against Top 100 DJs and places like The Shelter seem to be a response to that ... but if you look at the party pictures for Tiesto, it looks pretty packed ...
Steve: Well, he's the "Number 1 DJ in the world" supposedly, so I think people just go anyways to have a look...
Carl: Yeah I mean, it's the same... some shitty foreign rock band playing a stadium gets a massive crowd, and you would think they're fucking terrible ... I mean you have to understand the music to know that Tiesto is a massive fraud. And also its like some people go because everyone is going, and they're like "well now I'm going and I need a table and I need a shitload of champagne." Its not about Tiesto...
People say that they fucking love it, his stuff, but then lets say the following week the resident DJ plays the exact same music, they'll be like, "what the fuck is this go back to what you were playing last week."
If Pete Tong came to Attica and played a two hour set, and didn't interact with the crowd or anything, and if Steve played the exact same set, getting into it and interacting with the crowd, people would say they liked the Pete Tong set better...
I read in other interviews ... mostly with bigger touring DJs or sometimes expat DJs here, they talk about "educating" local clubbers to this or that kind of music. Is that something you give a shit about?
Steve: Yeah. [Laughs].
Carl: Yeah, well sure. That's what we've been doing for the last four years, pushing our kind of music and trying to get it out there. And I think to a vast degree it's worked. I mean all these expat DJs have basically lifted greater China from absolutely nothing to now... which is, you know, up to electro house, which is two years behind... I'd say there is a core of about 20 expat DJs, not all living in Shanghai, like around China -- some in Beijing, some in Guangzhou -- who are directly responsible for lifting a billion people out of ... musical backwardness.
Steve: But I still think that the way people club, like going out and dancing, is still not quite there yet... I mean ... clubbing should be about people going fucking mental on the dance floor.
So do you pay attention to musical trends back home or...
Carl: Yep. But I hate the trends back home [Laughs].
Steve: I have a lot of friends, and I think Carl does too, in the music business and they send me new stuff, that people can't get here...
Carl: Yeah. I'm not too into what's going on back home and especially Europe because it's minimal and I fucking can't stand minimal...
Steve: You can't dance to it properly, it's kind of weak...
Carl: It's really soulless, it has no funk...its trendy... which is why there are a few clubs around town that are hammering it. Not too say that minimal DJs are bad like Skinny Babu and Erwan... I've seen those guys a couple of times and they fucking rock it because they pick the extreme few bits of minimal that are actually quite good and chunky and funky and mix them together. And then there are a few others around town that think they play minimal but its shit...
What are positive developments in the last four years?
Carl: Maybe I'm wrong in this but I always thought that local DJs sort of lack confidence.
Steve: They're holding back a bit...
Carl: And that's something that's changing... They're doing all their events... DJs are taking control, saying "fuck this, this is my town and my party." And they're getting hyped now so Euro-trash are going to their shows, which is good [Laughs]. Some of the UDance guys, some of them I don't like at all but some of them are really good. John Yang...
Steve: David K.
Carl: David K is wicked.
Steve: Ben Huang
Carl: I don't know. I guess DJ Calvin is the benchmark really...
Steve: He put his neck out there...
Carl: I don't think anyone could replicate what he's done really... He put house music on map. SexyPaul can say he did it but whatever, that's bullshit... he put disco or whatever on the map [Laughs].
Don't say shit like that unless you want 30,000 comments from him at the end of the article...
Carl: No, what Paul did was great, what all those DJs did is great, amazing, because before them there was nothing, they brought western music in. I mean, we bitch about how hard it is to play in China, but Christ they must have had a hard time. Definitely, they laid the groundwork. There was a huge gap of ... nothingness ... and then they filled it.
So what sorts of clubs in town do you like play at?
Carl: I really like playing at The Shelter.
Steve: I've yet to play ... but we're working on that.
Carl: I would assume MAO is quite good to play, but I've never played there ... I am looking forward to The Wall. It's quite a big club though, but I think it would be a good vibe.
What's it like playing megaclubs? Is their pressure involved with that?
Carl: Well you adapt to what the crowd wants. I've had some really good times in megaclubs, like, there was this one out by Fudan university called "Banana." I don't know if it still exists but it was this massive aircraft hanger thing. I played there for like 600 kids and I don't know, they were pilled up or on speed or something because they were going fucking nuts out there, throwing water bottles...
Steve: They were throwing water bottles probably because they though your music was shit [Laughs].
Carl: There was this massive, massive fight at one of the back tables and cops came in with riot gear to break it up but people at the front didn't even notice. It was an amazing, amazing event.
Carl: Yeah, huge, huge difference.
Steve: Maybe not musically, well it's a little slower and more groovy in places like Attica, but in Chinese clubs you have to bring it. People are there to loose themselves and get absolutely twisted.
Carl: When I first came to China, I really hated the Chinese way of clubbing but I've come to respect it a lot ... I mean people go with their friends, they get a table, it's their little kingdom for the night. They get bottles and just have a fuck-load of fun. And for Bar Rouge and Attica, I mean, it's more laid back, but when CD Club gets going...
So we should talk a little more about Union ... So you have a show this Saturday at The Wall. Do you have any more plans after that?
Carl: Well this Saturday is just a one-off to see how it goes. Exploratory gig. To see if we can get the people to go to Pudong ... Trying each other on for size.
Steve: But we have a regular Wednesday night at Attica next Wednesday called "Beautiful Burnout."
What the difference?
Carl: The Wednesday ... well we didn't bill The Wall gig as a "Union" gig, The Wall did. And it's slightly unfair to Trix because he's not playing. But Attica, it's more of a new concept. And we'll play it elsewhere too. Maybe The Shelter, and MAO is interested too...
So Union has been around a while then? Is it a similar thing to Antidote, VOID...?
Carl: Yeah...
Steve: I think we're not perceived as "underground" though.
Carl: No we're definitely the commercial guys. We're the guys who play outside of Shanghai, we're the guys who sell-out. We play at Bonbon...
Steve: We dejay for money.
I wasn't going to ask you about the bund / underground thing...
Carl: Well, in my mind a corporate gig is when you're hired by Microsoft or the American Chamber of Commerce to play a show. I have no problem with corporate gigs. They pay a shitload. I just don't play them because they want you to play pop songs in a ballroom ... and it's not really ... in my musical repertoire. So I'm not interested.
As far as the bund versus the underground thing, I'm not to sure a lot of people really give a shit.
Steve: It's all the same people. Half the people who go to The Shelter go to the Bund.
Carl: The only problem I have is when DJs come here and then don't try to branch out and meet other people in the scene. I'm thinking if you're passionate about something and you're considered into the scene because by default you play at a big club that you should make the effort.
What's the most money you've ever made dejaying?
Carl: I made a hundred rmb a minute [Laughs].
Tell me about that one.
Carl: Well it was in Wenzhou, which is a city I've since blacklisted. Every horror story that's happened to me has happened in Wenzhou. I fucking hate Wenzhou.
Steve: Shite hole.
Carl: I got booked to play, flew in, realized I was dejaying with DJ ekki from Hong Kong. We played back to back for only 45 mins. We played maybe nine songs and got shitfaced.
What's the least amount of money you've ever been paid?
Steve: I think at I Love Shanghai [Laughs].
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Catch Carl Lorimer and Steve Bamford -- Union Music -- at The Wall this Saturday. Free entry. Free drinks for ladies before midnight.
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
29,999
I NEVER played George Michael or Stretch n Vern for my audition :-) (Carl knows what im on about)
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
29,998
"SexyPaul can say he did it but whatever, that's bullshit... he put disco or whatever on the map [Laughs]."
Cant believe i bought you a drink yesterday Carl !!!
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
29,997
Theres NOTHING wrong with DISCO
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
29,996
Theres NOTHING wrong with Co-operate gigs, they pay the rent for a couple of months (and engagement rings)
djsexypaul
Apr 11, 08
29,995
I have waaaaaay too much free time
good interview guys
I still think Ben Huang IS the Godfather of house though.........
.....................(Alex/Morgan, wheres the damn sarcasm button ?????)
scoreboard
Apr 11, 08
Great use of the scoreboard shitter guys. Notice how clean it is?
ekki
Apr 12, 08
HAHAH.. WENZHOU SUCKS ASS. But nice massages though, and you can get a 58kuai blowjob.
ekki
Apr 12, 08
and it was more like 130Kuai a minute..
chinaman
Apr 12, 08
i agree with SB, you guys doing the interview in the shitter is very poetic with all that dirty house you unleash. i'd just like to see some more fist pumping aka vincente
scoreboard
Apr 12, 08
Fist pumping in the shitter? You don't paint a pretty portrait jeff
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ERA
Multi-million dollar show, "ERA: The Intersection of Time," is Shanghai's most popular acrobatic performance featuring aerial walking, bowl balancing and flying trapeze.
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Shanghai Fantasia
Shanghai Fantasia showcases some of China's most skilful aerial artists and acrobatic performers, blending traditional acrobatic arts with modern stage acts.
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