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[The Argument]: A Defense of Din Tai Fung
There is no better soup dumpling in the city.
By May 21, 2019 Dining

TELL EVERYONE

Din Tai Fung, the Taiwanese restaurant chain, is Shanghai’s version of American politics. It’s divisive and highly partisan and people dig in hard either for the brand or against it. I am for it. Deeply for it. Shanghai’s Nanxiang town may have given birth to the xiao long bao; Taipei perfected it.

My love for the restaurant goes back far — 1987 far, at least. That was my first meal at Din Tai Fung on Taipei’s Xinyi Road that I remember, sitting on the second floor and demolishing a plate of fried rice and a fried pork chop. The sparsely decorated canteen smelled like bamboo steamer baskets and pork. I was six. I was amazed at how delicious it was. Still am.

This was before the shop became a global chain with more than 150 locations worldwide, decorated with caricatures of celebrities on the walls and plopped into glitzy malls.

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But while the experience may have gone upscale from my formative memory three decades ago, the food remains the same in both taste and quality. When you are talking about actual cooking — every dumpling still made by hand — and not freeze-and-reheat, it is quite an achievement. You’d think watching a brand like that grow and expand is a success story everyone can get behind. But no.

Let’s look at some of the arguments against Din Tai Fung:

Argument: Only Tourists and Foreigners Eat at Din Tai Fung



Let’s break this into two parts. Foreigners first. There’s a couple ways to dissect this argument. One is to look at Dianping. As of May 14, the brand’s 10 branches in Shanghai had a collective 27,236 reviews. All in Chinese. Who is writing these? Expats working at IAPM?

Another is to do some simple dining math. Din Tai Fung has 10 locations in Shanghai. Each location seats about 250 people. At a minimum, they have three seatings per day at the tables. That’s 10 x 250 x 3, or 7,500 people dining there per day. Shanghai had 163,363 resident foreigners in 2017, the latest figure available, according to the Shanghai Statistics Bureau. By this logic, 5% of Shanghai’s expat population, or ALMOST EVERY SINGLE FRENCH PERSON (pop. 8,659) is dining at Din Tai Fung every single day. Obviously not true.

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Even easier is to just look around. Are there foreigners there? Sure there are. But depending on what location, not so many. Speaking to Din Tai Fung management, I learned that even at Shanghai Centre, where you expect to see the most non-Chinese faces, 60% of their customers are Chinese. At Grand Gateway, that number goes up to 90%.

Are these all tourists?

Why can’t one assume that Shanghainese people appreciate a thin-skinned, high-quality soup dumpling? In fact, if anyone in the world can appreciate the handicraft of a soup dumpling, it’s Shanghainese. And we all know Shanghai doesn’t lack money. If people want nicer dumplings, they can afford them.

Argument: Din Tai Fung Is Overpriced and Some Other Place I Like Does a Better Xiao Long Bao Anyway



It’s true that the per-dumpling price at Din Tai Fung (about 6rmb) is higher than, say, Jia Jia Tang Bao (about 1.5rmb). Another way to express that is, Jia Jia Tang Bao, and all the other one-kuai-per-dumpling places (which the Shanghai Soup Dumpling Index found was the average benchmark) are underpriced. How? They take cheap locations, crowd them with customers, and cut costs severely when it comes to environment.

But just looking at the dumpling, there is a big difference between many of the mom-and-pop shops and Din Tai Fung.

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A Din Tai Fung dumpling has a skin approaching or even below 1.0mm (Shanghai Soup Dumpling Index — take out your calipers); others go up to 2.0mm, which makes a drastic difference in the grace and elegance of a soup dumpling. A Din Tai Fung dumpling always has 18 pleats and a very tiny “top-knot”, which is important to serious soup dumpling eaters who don’t want a mouthful of wheat dough. Many others may have a lot of pleats but they are often sealed with a pinch, which clumps the dough on top.

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Another metric to use is, how much does it really cost me? Again, we look to Dianping. The average price per person across all ten locations is 140-160rmb. That’s a burger and a drink at Blue Frog. More accurately I think what people are really saying is “I can get the same dish for much less elsewhere and I can’t tell the difference”. Call me a snob but this is on you. I can tell the difference.

I would go so far as to say Din Tai Fung is one of Shanghai’s best bargains for quality of food and dining experience. Many times when dining solo I’m in and out in 20 minutes and under 100rmb. They are paying above-market wages and training employees to give service at a standard that baffles most other F&B operators in Shanghai.

Argument: It's Just Another Chain Restaurant



What sets Din Tai Fung apart from others serving the same food aside from the maniacally strict standards on sourcing and food handling, is the delicate balance in flavor they achieve in all their dishes while highlighting the main ingredients. For me it is not just the best xiao long bao spot; they do most everything else very well. Their fried rice, spicy wontons, pork bun, scallion noodles, and appetizer small plates are some of the best examples out there.

Conclusion



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I think where many Shanghai residents go astray on Din Tai Fung is they think of it just as a xiao long bao destination when it is an experience encompassing much more. Loose comparisons can be quickly made between the big brand empire and a cheaper mom-and-pop shop and it’s not hard to see in a post-Bourdain era which side food-centric people lean, if there even needs to be sides to begin with. Friends that have eaten at Din Tai Fung but don’t have one in their home city all earmark it as a must-go when in the vicinity of one. People in London right now are queueing for five hours to get into that city’s first Din Tai Fung. Yet most Shanghai residents view Din Tai Fung with weary eyes, probably akin to how New Yorkers view Shake Shack.

And this is why I want to argue the point in the first place. Shanghai is jaded. The grass is plenty green here when it comes to dining options, and for me, Din Tai Fung is where I plant my flag.

They gave a lot of street food dignity, and built a model based on rigorous standards in both service and food. Also, there's no better xiao long bao in the world.

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  • 1 month ago YueHaiSen74

    Great food, great service, reasonable price, best xiao long bao restaurant in Shanghai, agreed!

  • 1 month ago Monica716 Unverified User

    I can’t agree more!

  • 1 month ago ZhangBang Unverified User

    Great food, OK service, Exorbitant and Ridiculous price for the little that you get. There is much much better available in Shanghai. Even the tourists now understand this.

  • 1 month ago thxwz8 Unverified User

    People who hate on dingtaifung have no pallet and are too price conscious. you're paying for quality ingredients and great service by china standards

  • 1 month ago ttzz

    haha, as a local it's true that I never heard any of my friends/family/colleagues dining out at dingtaifeng or recommend it .you have fairly enough to explained it already and i agree but still I don't have any motivation to go there.in weekdays try to get some nutritious and convenient food for lunch and dinner if they are not freelancers and in weekends or holidays what kind of people will hold a gathering or bring their date to this place or eat alone there?my narrow mind only comes up with xiaolongbao lovers or foreigners or some relatives of my grandma coming from other provinces .what is the target customers of dingtaifeng generally ,you may say not specific group. And how much and how many of them would a Newyorker pay for a hot dog in a fancy restaurant which is made of 100% organic vegetables and the meat comes from Japanese Wagyu and remained as longterm stable customer

  • 1 month ago auggie87

    You had me until:

    " Yet most Shanghai residents view Din Tai Fung with weary eyes, probably akin to how New Yorkers view Shake Shack. "

    This is not a valid comparison. New York was never known specifically for hamburgers up until recent years with this wave of high end burger chains that had swept across all of America, and even now New Yorkers still gush about Shake Shack if you ask them. Xiaolongbao is dish specific to Shanghai, so the jaded attitude from Shanghaiese people you speak of isn't completely irrational or unreasonable. Just because something has a reputation, it doesn't make it the best. The same can be said about Di Shui Dong.

  • 26 days ago Rukawa1111 Unverified User

    It s funny to see the usual comments « there are much better places » but in 95% the same persons who usually claim that never quote any better restaurant names...so it s not very helpful comment

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